Episode 18-Religion and Spirituality
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Join The Gaggle as they dive into religion, the good and the bad – as well as share our individual philosophies and how they relate to agorism.
Moderated by Peter R. Quinones and Nicole Sauce
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Peter Quinones: https://freemanbeyondthewall.libsyn.com/
Jack Spirko: http://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com/
Nicole Sauce: https://www.livingfreeintennessee.com/
Xavier Hawk: https://phireon.com/
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Show Notes:
What are they drinking?
Nicole – Lyre’s Fake Whiskey mixed with fizzy water
Spirko – Heather, chamomile, elderflower tea
X – Kratom & tequila
Religion and spirituality bring community
Everyone is looking for some form of authority, either a person or belief, fallback vehicle when people don’t agree with government
Definitions, courtesy of Jack
Gnostic – statement of belief; Means “To know”
Agnostic – NOT Atheist light; statement of belief; Means “To not know”
Atheist – lack belief in a god or gods; can still have faith
Deist – believe in some higher power, but don’t know what it is
Theist – faith based on theology
How can you have faith if you have knowledge? Faith requires the absence of knowledge
You don’t need to have faith if you are looking for knowledge
Why do they all believe in something, if none are atheists
Was the church set up to be a control system?
Does love exist?
Suggestions on where to go in your spirituality journeys
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RECOMMENDED RESOURCES:
Mormon Church Welfare System, http://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/topic/welfare-and-self-reliance
Tabula Rasa, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabula_rasa
Dietrich Bonhoeffer, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Bonhoeffer
Declaration of Independence, https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
Phireon, https://phireon.com/
Where Does Morality Come From, http://moderndeist.org/where-does-morality-come-from
Men Too Gentle to Live Among Wolves, https://www.amazon.com/There-Gentle-Live-Among-Wolves/dp/1878995138
God Lives, https://www.amazon.com/God-Lives-Religious-Spiritual-Freedom/dp/1878995219
Illusions, https://www.amazon.com/Illusions-Adventures-Reluctant-Richard-Bach/dp/0440204887
Jonathan Livingston Seagull, https://www.amazon.com/Jonathan-Livingston-Seagull-Richard-Bach/dp/0743278909
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I have heard an interesting take on God in the old testament. It seems from a hermetic stance that there were two Gods El and Jehovah. El was the compasionate God where Jehovah was a war like god. The king james version of the bible was edited by Ezra to replace all versions of El with Jehovah. Kinda makes sense to me due to the schizophrenic nature of God in the old testament. At times he is merciful and other times a 12 year old having a tantrum. This seems to be done to meld God into one thing taking out the duality and giving kings power. Just a thought.
The caveat that was missed on the eating of pig part was the “chewing of the cud”. https://biblehub.com/leviticus/11-26.htm
Check out Dr. Joe Dispenza…. Becoming Supernatural. Accessing the power within.
Also, Gregg Braden’s work speaks to spiritualy.
Lynn McTaggart the power of 8
All speak to the power of thaught, intentions, prayer and meditation.
Listening to people talk about the bible and Christianity who have the most bad faith arguments and no concept of exegesis or higher textual criticism is so incredibly cringe and smoothbrained. Also nobody in the faith is debating whether Bonhoeffer is good because he disagreed with nazism. What insane boomer shit is this
The only people I know of who are regularly offended by people who don’t share their beliefs simply stating so and why are Christians and Muslims.
As a Christian I have eventually come to believe that actually following Jesus’ teachings (rather than the teachings of a church/denomination/religion) would lead one towards the Anarchist/Libertarian direction, rather than away from it. Some podcasts and websites I’ve found encouraging in that direction that you could pass on to your friend who said they couldn’t become an anarchist because they were a Christian:
Libertarian Christian Institute (articles & podcast)
AnarchoChristian (podcast & blog)
Rival Nations (articles)
GodArchy (podcast & blog)